Kelly talks to Russ Laraway, whose impressive career led him from the Marine Corps to Wharton to Google and Twitter. They discuss his new book: “When They Win, You Win: Being a Great Manager is Simpler Than You Think.”

“Almost no one applies for a job called leader.” 

“Dysfunctional management at the senior level spreads like a pandemic, and now we all know what that’s like.” 

“Asking for permission is the greatest risk mitigation strategy ever created for the workplace.”